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Foucault presses Chomsky on the philosophical justification for his resistance, asking whether he acts in the name of an "ideal justice" or "necessary class struggles." Foucault refers to a contemporary French debate where some activists criticized judicial practices in terms of "war" rather than "justice." Chomsky clarifies his position, reformulating the conflict as being between "legality and better justice," emphasizing that legality, where it aligns with justice and refers to a better society, should be upheld and enforced against oppressive bodies like the police and corporations.

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