Nick Pope and Chris Lehto Discuss UFOs, UAPs, and if 2021 was different from the past 80 years

Nick Pope ran the UK's "UFO Desk" from 1991-1994 and spent the following decades in the UFO field. He is well known for his book and investigation into the Rendlesham Incident, "UK's Roswell." In this interview we discuss a range of topics from his time as head of the UFO Desk, his theories and experiences in the field for over 30 years, and his thoughts on whether this new defense bill in the US will make a difference.

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Thanks for watching and reading,
Regards,
Chris

Nick Pope Calvine Photo and article
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1611324/...

Nick's reference to working for the MOD 1991-1994
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa...

List of 38 DIA produced documents from AWSAAP
https://irp.fas.org/dia/aatip-list.pdf

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00:00 Intro
1:43 Guest intro
2:35 Three Row UFO quick cap
5:59 UK UFO Reporting
12:20 "UAP" Changes minds
16:00 Where did UAP name come from?
17:30 Is UAP better than UFO?
20:00 Problem with Condone Report
21:30 UAP effects on Humans
23:30 They are real objects
24:22 38 Research Documents
26:00 What do you think of AWSAAP/AATIP?
31:56 Did the UK give you the resources you needed?
34:48 Hoax on the UK MOD Cover?
36:38 MASINT Works well to find a HOAX
37:50 3 Categories of HOAX
40:00 ODNI 25 June Report
42:00 do you see many multiple source cases?
45:30 not one sonic boom!
47:50 do you believe the witnesses?
49:50 let’s cut to the chase
53:48 Were any careers hurt for reporting?
58:20 Possible National Security issue?
1:03:00 What do you think of the NDAA?
1:09:13 is the lack of action due to lack of damage and loss?
1:16:08 What is the weirdest aspect of the phenomena?
1:20:40 Does MOD deny you worked from them?
1:22:36 Any under the ocean/Nuclear incidents?
1:23:50 Any crash retrievals in the UK?
1:25:30 Crop Circles?
1:27:35 Roswell?
1:29:00 Calvine Incident
1:32:20 What is the one idea that is most unsettling?
1:33:40 Which group has the most understanding of UAPs?
1:34:18 What should I focus on?
1:36:50 How do we follow your work?
1:38:32 Outtro