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✨ What if the Light still finds you—even when church doesn’t?

This week’s SPARK isn’t a sermon. It’s a real conversation between two longtime friends who’ve lived through spiritual shift, recovery, grief, and rediscovery.

Rev. Deb Swift sits down with Rev. Bill Hockey to talk about what happens when the religion you inherited stops making sense… and how Spirit still shows up—in AA circles, funeral homes, and fragile moments of truth.

If you’ve ever felt like you don’t fit in the old story anymore, this one’s for you.

🕯️ Honest talk.
🔥 Gentle prayer.
💬 One brave question to carry you forward.

Tune in.
Take a breath.
And remember: the light is still lighter than the dark is dark.

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