In this episode of Lunch w/ Jamie, Jamie sits down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic and former Editor-in-Chief of WIRED, for a wide-ranging conversation on journalism, AI, media economics, and the future of truth in a rapidly changing world.
They unpack one of the biggest moments in modern media — SignalGate — including how the White House responded, the legal risks involved, and what it was like inside The Atlantic as the story broke. Nicholas also explains how The Atlantic went from losing money to becoming one of the most profitable and influential publications in the world, sharing insights on subscriptions, paywalls, and why chasing video and podcasts too early nearly sank legacy media.
The conversation goes deep on artificial intelligence: how AI will reshape journalism, healthcare, education, and elections, why Google may be winning the AI arms race, and what skills matter most for young people entering the workforce today. Nicholas also opens up about his book The Running Ground, surviving cancer, post-traumatic growth, and how running has shaped his life, leadership, and mindset.
Topics covered include:
SignalGate and press freedom in the modern era
The Atlantic’s business turnaround and media strategy
AI’s impact on journalism, education, healthcare, and democracy
Deepfakes, misinformation, and the future of trust
Career advice for the next generation in an AI-driven world
Running, resilience, and personal growth
If you’re interested in media, technology, AI, leadership, or the future of information, this episode offers rare, behind-the-scenes insight from one of the most thoughtful voices in modern journalism.
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00:00 – Intro & Nicholas Thompson’s Background
04:30 – The Running Ground, Cancer, and Post-Traumatic Growth
11:30 – What The Atlantic Stands For
17:30 – How The Atlantic Became Profitable Again
24:30 – Why The Atlantic Avoided Video & Podcasts
29:30 – SignalGate: Inside the Story
36:30 – AI and the Future of Media
43:30 – AI in Education, Healthcare, and Daily Life
50:30 – Careers, Young People, and the AI Economy
56:30 – Rapid Fire: The Most Interesting Tech (Non-AI)
59:30 – Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up
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