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What does it really take to do business with China today—and at what cost?

In this episode of Conversations with the Experts, Dan Martin talks with Chris Fenton, Eleven Canterbury consultant, longtime media executive, and a leading voice on U.S.–China relations. Chris shares an insider’s perspective on the push and pull between capitalism and patriotism, the strategic decoupling of the two economies, and why TikTok has become a symbol of something much bigger.

They also break down the risks of rare earth dependencies, how China’s long-term planning puts the U.S. at a disadvantage, and what’s at stake when commerce, culture, and national security collide.

If you're interested in geopolitics, global trade, or the future of U.S.–China business, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

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