Kunal Shah in conversation with Julie Zhuo | CRED curious

Julie Zhuo, founder of Sundial and former VP design at Meta, sits down with Kunal Shah to reveal unique observations about talent and culture from their time in the San Francisco Bay Area and in Bengaluru.

With their shared experiences as leaders in startups, they discuss risk tolerance, creative confidence, encoding values, and what it takes for leaders to pursue excellence at scale.

Chapters:
00:00 Start
00:41 Session opening
01:20 Julie’s journey into startups and into Facebook
05:03 Julie’s advice on scaling startups
08:23 Differences between talent in the Bay Area and India
14:00 Differences between Bay Area and India in the need for excellence
17:15 The evolution of Mark Zuckerberg
22:40 Views on ChatGPT
25:21 Can Google fight ChatGPT?
28:38 How Google and Facebook make successful acquisitions
31:30 The importance of speed
35:30 Traits of a great leader
39:40 Three traits of mediocre talent
41:15 ChatGPT question on the future of design
44:40 Q&A session
1:06:00 Kunal on long-term orientation
1:08:36 What keeps Julie going after Facebook

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