Jason Fried x Derek Sivers | The Forum

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About Jason:
Jason is an entrepreneur, author, and software developer. He is the co-founder and CEO of Basecamp (formerly 37signals), a web-based project management and team collaboration tool. Fried is known for his unconventional approach to business and work culture, advocating for remote work and prioritizing work-life balance long before it became mainstream.
He has co-authored several influential books on business and productivity, including "Rework," "Remote: Office Not Required," and "It Doesn't Have to Be Crazy at Work." Fried's ideas on simplicity in business, focused work, and challenging traditional office norms have made him a respected voice in the tech and entrepreneurship communities.

About Derek:
Derek is an entrepreneur, writer, and musician best known for founding CD Baby, an online music store for independent musicians, which he sold in 2008 for $22 million and donated the proceeds to a charitable trust for music education. Sivers is renowned for his unconventional thinking and approach to business and life.
He is the author of books such as "Anything You Want" and "Your Music and People," which offer insights into entrepreneurship, self-improvement, and the music industry. Sivers is also known for his popular TED talks and his website, where he shares his thoughts on a wide range of topics from business to philosophy.



A Conversation About Everything, and nothing.

(00:00) Intro (beondeck.com)
(2:20) Who are Derek and Jason?
(5:10) Derek misses having a "sandbox"
(8:20) Can you really learn from the past?
(16:14) Derek and Jason wouldn't want to run public companies. Why?
(28:01) Derek on Jason creating a Purpose Trust.
(36:12) Simplicity is the best.
(47:51) How Derek and Jason view hard times.
(55:14) Is Jason fueled by anger and rebellion by the way things are?
(1:12:41) What is the greatest email the two of them have received?
(1:17:01) Derek on "How to Live"
(1:34:12) One fact that will blow 11 year old me mind.



Jason Fried x Derek Sivers.
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